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City Emerges from Antarctica's Ice Mary Joyce Thomas Wertman Paranormal

Oct. 21, 2021

Mary Joyce has worked for two major metropolitan newspapers - The Orlando Sentinel in Florida as an artist and columnist, and The Oakland Press in Michigan as a Sunday magazine editor and then feature editor. On the side, she’s written magazine articles and books. Since 2008, she has been the main researcher and editor for the Sky Ships Over Cashiers website which features a wide variety of cutting-edge topics – from UFOs to secret underground bases; from Bigfoot to Cherokee Little People. Mary has gone from investigating mob stories in Detroit, including Jimmy Hoffa’s death, to interviewing people with the highest top-secret clearances about clandestine government activities. She even has had face-to-face interviews with a whistleblower with Cosmic Top-Secret clearance who once worked within the top tier of the infamous international Cabal. .







Thomas Wertman

State Director – Field Investigator - MUFON of Ohio

It is said we are all products of our environment. Growing up in the 60s and

watching television shows such as The Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits fueled an

interest in space and the unknown. Television shows and movies soon led to books,

but unfortunately this interest had to be put aside to build a career, raise a family,

and earn a bachelors in business and master’s in education.

Now with my family grown and pursuing their own careers I decided to return to

my lifelong interest in the unknown. The first step in 2008 was joining the Ohio based

group the Cleveland Ufology Project (CUP). Founded in 1952, the discussion group

provided an avenue to explore areas associated with ufology.

The second step also in 2008 was becoming a member of the Mutual UFO

Network (MUFON). Since that time, I have advanced from field investigator to State

Director of Ohio. Currently I have investigated over 300 cases in Ohio with one of the

most interesting involving two fishermen who experienced over three and one-half

hours of missing time. This case involved: witness interviews combined with event

reenactment, extensive research into flight plans.

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