Reviews For Making Movies is HARD!!!: The Struggles of Indie Filmmaking

Big fan of this podcast by Liz and Alrik. Been listening for a few years and I always hear something valuable every episode. It’s a great podcast for first time filmmakers looking for inspiration and knowledge on how to get their first feature made. It’s a smaller filmmaking community in LA then people realize, and they’ve interviewed a handful of artists I’ve worked with over the years which is always fun when old acquaintances come on talking about the success of completing their first feature. Good stuff. Highly recommend.
If you are a filmmaker or an aspiring filmmaker you have found an outstanding podcast! I love your format and the way you dive in as independent filmmakers. Thank you Liz and Alrik for this awesome podcast, I really enjoy it and I’ve taken a ton away from it!
If you enjoy the journey AND the destination, Making Movies is Hard is for you. This aspirational and conversational podcast takes you on a journey into the lives of aspiring filmmakers at every level. It delves into the every-day struggles of every department, from the Production Assistant all the way through the Executive Producer. It includes guests from Pixar, Sundance Film Festival, and movies like Fruitvale Station - and even the director of Napoleon Dynamite! Whether you have produced 10 feature films, are just fundraising for your first short film, or just want to discover what it’s like to make movies, this podcast has it all. AND if you really love the content, be sure to check out the additional episodes on Patreon, where you can follow founding co-host Alrik Bursell’s mission to make his first film (which he accomplished!). Making movies is hard, but this podcast will inspire you to want to do it more every day.
I’ve learned so much from their filmmaker interviews and different segments. I really appreciate how practical the podcast is, while also striving for a level of transparency that is so lacking in the industry. Liz and Alrik don't shy away from the hard questions and are refreshingly honest. I am so grateful that this resource for filmmakers exists. It is a source of information, inspiration, and sometimes, it's kind of like artistic therapy. Without a doubt, making movies is very communal, but the times when I feel alone and overwhelmed in my endeavors… I usually shuffle to a random episode and by the end find myself reinvigorated with a fresh perspective on something and by the contagious passion filmmakers share. Lastly, the evolution of this show is fantastic. I seriously cannot imagine Liz not being a host (her insight and interest in distribution is unparalleled) but I also get so much joy going back into the archive with the founding hosts. Every episode, current and in the archive, is very worthwhile and special.
I’m a screenwriter with my first feature currently in post production and this podcast is a godsend! It makes me feel like I’m not losing my mind. I have been recommending you to everyone because people on the outside think that making movies is glamorous but really it’s a lot of stress, hard work, networking, begging for money, helping on other people’s projects, rejection, celebration, finding community, and keeping at it because you have a passion for the art of storytelling! Your podcast capture all of that, so thank you!
As a filmmakers myself, I thoroughly enjoy the honest take on all things filmmaking. Keep up the great work! John Demakas
I listen to y’all on the way to work on my scooter. Don’t worry I’m safe. I’ve learned so much and you guys inspire me.
We love the show, the candid interviews, and insights from the best hosts Alrik & Liz ! Keep it up! This podcast is a light in the dark for so many who just need some encouragement to know their story matters and they can, in fact, overcome the obstacles to make a film. Yes it’s hard, but with awesome people in the arena with you, it IS possible. Thank you! - Rebecca & James Casselman
I’m a huge fan and I think you guys are doing a wonderful job. Keep up the good work.
I found this podcast a few months ago, and it has quickly risen to the top of my list. The personable hosts bring a refreshing honesty to the show, covering a broad range of topics centering on the challenges and joys of JUST GETTING MOVIES MADE. Liz and Alrik call upon a wealth of experience in both for-hire and self-produced projects, while striving to push their careers forward with determination and enthusiasm. Their conversations with fellow filmmakers are always on-point, informative, and inspirational. And I love THE GAME! A must for independent filmmakers everywhere!
Liz and Alrik are both relatable and down to earth and extremely knowledgeable and passionate about what they do, which is a winning combination. Yes, Making Movies is Hard, but week by week Alrik, Liz, and their guests demonstrate that Making Movies is also Rewarding, Exciting, and above all, Possible! And at the end of the day, especially BECAUSE Making Movies is Hard, this excellent pod is a great source of both comfort and inspiration.
So I make indie horror movies with my brother at DBS films and I have to say I love these podcasts, found myself going from the first one to the newest! (Rip Timothy) however Alrik and Liz do such a great job every episode Excited to see the Alternate!!!
Ive been programming for film festivals for 20 years now and recently decided I’d like to learn more about what the filmmakers I’ve come to love endure. This is something I’ve avoided for years as I came to my work as a huge fan of short films and decidedly NOT a filmmaker. I’ve always embraced the idea that I want to consume and view films like the members of our festival audience and not through the eyes of a filmmaker. I still embrace this notion but recently decided that after all these years I’d like to be more helpful to the emerging filmmakers whose films play at the now three festivals for which I am either the programmer of all films or the programmer of the short films. In order to do so I feel the need to become more educated about what independent filmmakers experience before, during, and after their films play at our festivals. My mind has always resisted this path for fear that it would make my already difficult job even more difficult. I already care deeply for the filmmakers who submit films, having a pretty good idea of the challenges, expenses, and constant rejection they face. To know even more will surely make that sense of empathy grow further, again, making my job even more difficult. But I recently found my mind responding to this idea that “knowing even more will make my job harder” by channeling Joan Allen as Bonnie Waitzkin responding to Ben Kingsley as Bruce Pandolfini, in one of my all time favorites, Searching for Bobby Fischer. Pandolfini has just asked Bonnie to stop allowing Josh to play chess in the park. Bonnie replies, “No. It would kill him not to play in the park. He loves it.”. To which Pandolfini replies, “It just makes my job harder.”. And then Bonnie answers with the line my mind has channeled, “Then your job’s harder.”. So, here I am having accepted this fate. Amongst the things I’ve done to start, “The Film Education of a Veteran Festival Programmer”, is start listening to your podcast. I consumed five episodes on my first day and thoroughly enjoyed every minute. And I’m writing this review on the same day. I took a break from watching Liz’s short films on YouTube, having watched and enjoyed “This is a Short We’re Submitting to Film Festivals” and the music video “ You’re So Pony”, after having watched Alrik’s short film, “Strange Thing” on YouTube as well, to write this review. Thank you both for the incredibly valuable work you’re doing not only behind the camera but behind the microphone as well. You’re helping me more fully understand, what I already knew, that making movies is hard. But more importantly your also helping me understand how I might be able to be more helpful to the filmmakers who eventually find their way into my small but enthusiastic universe. Thank you so very much and I look forward to making my way through your history of podcasts while also tuning in for all the new episodes to come!
This podcast recently landed on my radar and immediately drew my attention because both the questions and answers are “no holds barred”. In the next decade as all content creation migrates to Web3 I predict these young ambitious indie filmmakers we are introduced to each week will be on the frontlines of change. Stay tuned!!
Liz and Alrik are open and candid about their work in film and their ups and downs. They bring in amazing guests to share their experience on what it takes to make movies. It is a great encouragement for anyone who is working or wants to work in the industry. And it’s fun for any fan of film to hear how it’s made!
I just found this podcast and now I’m going to binge the whole thing!
Thank y’all! Really interesting guests and great insight on distribution which is what I was searching out.
I love this show! It’s relatable and honest about the ugly truth of being in the indie film world. It’s full of resources. It covers many topics and tips as well as hosts guests from all sorts of experiences and backgrounds. Very refreshing!
Awesome podcast. Great resource and source of both inspiration and reality checks for independent filmmakers.
Relatively new listener, just a few months in and quickly digging my way through the back catalogue of this show, which has quickly become my favorite filmmaking podcast. So much insightful information from indie filmmakers at all levels of their careers! Thanks Liz Alrik.
Making movies is hard has been a great education in independent film for me. I really appreciate Liz and Alrich’s “we’re all in this together” attitude. I’m listening through tons of past episodes to learn, and it also really helps me stay motivated to keep pursuing the indie dream.
Hosts Liz and Alrik provide inspiration, humor, and fellowship filled with great interviews, guests, and perspectives. Making Movies is Hard is a must listen.
I wish I found this podcast years ago. I’ve been making films for a long time and still so much of the process is a mystery to me. The best part about this show is the encouragement to just get out and make things, and hearing so many different filmmakers tell their unique stories, getting into the nuts and bolts of making their films, is so inspiring. I honestly have had a better outlook on life and moving forward in my “career” thanks to this show. It made me realize you have to just keep making films and you are the only person who will be determined enough to see them through. I had a version of that realization when I made my second feature recently (first as director) out of sheer will and determination, but I felt so tired and worn down afterwards and thought I couldn’t continue making films in this way. Something about hearing on this show that it’s just that hard for EVERYONE, every time, at all stages of their careers, has given me the fortitude to feel like I can continue to devote my life to this. There’s not really such a thing as “making it,” and somehow really realizing that is freeing (and only a little depressing haha). The cohosts are so lovely and generous with their knowledge and curiosity, and I just want to say thank you Liz and Alrik, you guys are awesome. Having just discovered this show a couple weeks ago I have a ton of episodes to catch up on!

5/5

By N_A_K
Just found this show. As an actor it gives such a fresh perspective
I discovered this podcast because of the Joe Bob Briggs episode. I’m not a filmmaker, but I’ve always been interested in the process of movie making and I’m a fan of watching independent films. The hosts of this show Liz and Alrik do a great job with their interviews and keep the show interesting because of their insights and experience in filmmaking. As a result of this podcast, I’ve discovered many new shorts and features that I wouldn’t have found without their podcast. Keep up the great work!!! Edwin
Making movies is indeed hard. Listening to this podcast is not. It's a joy to feel like you're learning right alongside Alrik, Liz and all their inspiring guests. If you're a filmmaker, listen to this podcast!
I came here just to hear the joe bob interview and was pleasantly suprised. Great hosts. I will listen to other episodes now. Good job guys
Starting my second script but first real deal screen writing process. I searched for a filmmaker podcast and came across making movies is hard and the confidence I’ve gained from every episode is so amazing. A very well done and informative podcast with two full of personality hosts. A good dynamic and the guest aren’t asked the same questions. I recommend this podcast to anyone who is looking to learn about the filmmaking process. Keep up the good work. Ps 4 out of 5 because of what Liz brought up 🤷🏾‍♂️😉
I have been listening to the podcast for several months and have thoroughly enjoyed Making Movies is Hard. As a filmmaker myself, I can truly relate to the ups and downs of independent filmmaking that Alrik and Liz so frequently discuss. I continue to be inspired by them and their guests to progress in my filmmaking journey.
It’s been exciting to see this podcast grow, morph and establish itself as a wellspring of empowerment for independent filmmakers at every level. What I hope people will take away from this show, is the ability to recognize their own film community, no matter the geographic location. Always remember that independent films are built on relationships, not money. Tell your stories, make your voices heard and don’t wait for Hollywood to deem you a filmmaker… You are a filmmaker! Congrats to Alrik and Liz for championing independent films, their creators, and shedding a light on our love/hate relationship with filmmaking.
I always thought Liz & Alrik were just being modest about the number of reviews and Patreon supporters they receive. Hearing Liz genuinely seem surprised/happy that I was supposedly the first person they didn’t personally know sign up as a patron - I’m thinking maybe this show really is not getting the love it deserves and I need to step up my game to turn more folks onto it. I have been listening for a while now and really love how the show has evolved and really enjoy the new format. I have have dabbled creatively throughout my life but always felt intimidated by filmmaking - when I was younger I thought I just didn’t have the money, gear, connections or zip code to make it happen. That later morphed into thinking I was just too old to get started. Listening to Liz, Alrik and their amazing guests share their stories made me realize that there’s no “right” way, or path to making films - that making movies is hard (but worth it) regardless of your experience, background or age and you are only limited by your passion & perseverance. I have been inspired to once again stoke my creative fire and begin writing and shooting again. If you are an indie filmmaker or just love listening to creative folks talk about what inspires them to create, check out this podcast! Oh and if you’re able - toss ‘em a buck or two on Patreon, too!
I am a screenwriter and filmmaker and let me just say that I have searched far and wide for a good entertaining, and consistent film podcast. MMIH is everything I wanted & needed in film podcast! I love the new additions! It’s also inspiring that Liz is a mother because so am I! Also, subscribe to their YouTube page! Yes they are on YouTube now! I’m so excited for more content. Might even support the patreon when I get my coins up :) -@thinksade
I’ve been listening since the beginning and this show gets better and better. Timothy and Alrik had their chemistry and flow that really worked for the show as their skills evolved toward making their first gesture films (congrats Alrik). Now with Liz, the show is leveling up with tools for filmmakers belts. The guests all bring something new to think about and there’s something for everyone. Highly recommended!
I've listened to this podcast on and off for years - I think the show has really evolved into a professional and honest podcast. The hosts are fun. The guests are honest. No blowhards, Hollywood gloss, or celebrity wannabes. Just honest conservation about what it means to be a regular person working hard to make movies. I love it.
I listen to many filmmaking podcasts. MMIH is one I look forward to. I enjoyed the old format and I enjoy the new format more and more each week. Making movies is hard, but it’s easier when you know you’re not alone. Thanks Liz and Alrik for letting us hang out with you and your guests!
This motion picture podcast gives me cologne cancer
making movies really is hard. i’ve been listening to this podcast since episode 20 odd or even something, and i must say, it just keeps getting better and better. like a well written, long running tv show it has been thrilling and inspiring to see the journeys of timothy, alrik, and liz. by the way, liz manashil is one of the most kind and genuine human beings i’ve ever interacted with. i’ve learned a great deal from liz and she continues to inspire me. alrik is pretty cool too. (alrik you really are a great guy haha, can’t wait to buy the alternate.) i truly believe this podcast is essential for all independent filmmakers out there. liz and alrik are providing some of the most valuable content for us, and it doesn’t cost a thing. that being said, join the patreon folks! liz and alrik, the indie film community is forever indebted to you. i’ll be sure to thank you both during my oscar speech. - Lonzo Bentley
I’m a filmmaker on my third feature documentary and my first docuseries. It is always great to learn more about the business and get inspiration from fellow artists. Filmmaking is very hard as I can attest to. I have four young daughters, a full time day job and make movies in my free time. You have to have a love for this business or non of this makes sense. So in closing this a great podcast if you are interested in the world of filmmaking and there is a bonus... no politics!
I was never a podcast consumer until Timothy reached out to me about MMIH with Alrik years ago. Since then, the only podcasts I listen to are about filmmaking. I'm a fimmaker that never went to filmschool but found that by listening to podcasts like MMIH and others, you can get practical advise and knowledge that filmschool can never give you. MMIH is one of my favorites if not my #1 filmmaking podcast because it feels like sitting with great friends after a long day on set and commiserating about our insecurities as artist but then at the end feeling better about ourselves . Timothy and Alrik are such kind people and I was bummed when Timothy decided to leave the team. The podcast was a little scattered after that as Alrik tried to find another co-host. But now that Liz is on board, order has been restored.
I’ve been listening to this podcast since the beginning. I’ve listened to the rise of Alrik, the loss of Timothy, and the addition of Liz. They’ve been amazing tools for any filmmaker at any level with their advice, honesty, and passion for making movies. Keep it up and share all you can because it’s helped me and I imagine others feel less lonely in this industry that can easily make you feel isolated. Making Movies Is Hard!
As a filmmaker who got started latter in life, I have to cram as much learning into whatever free time I have, whenever possible. Outside of YouTube, my holy trinity has been Masterclass, Off Camera with Sam Jones, and last, but certainly not least, Making Movies is Hard. Alrik asks great questions from his guests, especially that "what does that mean" deeper dive questions, that are so valuable at really understanding a film making process. Truly a master interviewer. Liz has increased the production value and professionalism, which was a little shot in the arm that the show needed, taking it from 4 to 5 stars. On top of them being solid podcast runners, they make movies too and share their experiences, from development to marketing. Thank you for helping better the craft! Side question - that theatrical orchestral little intro music: It was so dope - what happened to it? My guess is that you didn't own it and moved it aside after giving the podcast a facelift? If not and you did own it.....what are you doing?!?!?! It was amazing. :)
This podcast is genuine, honest and comforting. I've been listening since the days of Tim and Alrik and was weary at the loss of Tim, but glad to say it kept is charm and pizzazz due to Alrik's charisma and passion. Some great guest hosts and guests and now Liz is a nice balance with Alrik so it is still my favorite movie making podcast and podcast in general! I liked the balance of Tim's realistic, sometimes bordering on negative take, and Alrik's optimism, although I would say that Alrik is plenty realistic and by no means a pollyanna. Through the years, listening has made me feel like I am still in the world of low budget filmmaking even when it has taken the backseat. They never make fimmaking seem exclusive or unattainable, instead they just break things down plain and simple and it is perfect to keep me motivated through the lulls. It's not too cheerleadery like "you can do it if you keep trying, just beleive and your dreams will come true!" I don't like that either, it's a good balance. Listening to this podcast has always made the world of the indie festival circuit seem so fun and exciting and very attainable if you put the work in. It always makes me want to get back into that world because they are so excited about it and make it sound so cool. Even when I am doing other work I am always connected to filmmaking if by not much else, by this podcast. Great work! Love you guys. Alrik, you rock man!
Interesting guests and great advice! Love the new segments they’ve added in addition to the interview.
This podcast already was great and just keeps getting better, even in these tough times. Not just for all the superb advice and impressively non-boring shoptalk, but also for the general spirit-lift one gets from lively conversations full of honesty and humor and warmth. Clearly useful to film folks at all levels and from all backgrounds, it reminds us of the value of independent storytelling — and offers a real sense of community.
I’m an actor and independent filmmaker, and listening to this podcast causes me to smile and nod my head in recognition more than any other, just a dude nodding and grinning in his car and muttering things to himself like “Yep.” and “I get it.” and “HUH. Well, that’s cool.” over and over like a maniac. So that’s fun! :) Liz and Alrik are both sharp, insightful, and have a really great and charming rapport with one another. For anyone who’s into film or even just good conversation (I’m a huge fan of both!), I highly recommend this awesome podcast.
I’m thankful that this show exists, it’s a great place to hear people discussing roadblocks that maybe you yourself have gone through, see coming, or maybe even more importantly don’t see coming. The community here is great and I basically love everything about it. Excited to hear the format keep evolving, and to hear updates as Alrik enters production on his feature The Alternate.
Love this podcast, and love the recently increased diversity of hosts and guests. So often filmmaking podcasts are just two white, straight bros chatting about making movies (though I enjoy & listen to a ton of those too!). I miss Timothy, but the new format means we get to hear from a variety of filmmakers with diverse backgrounds, both interviewed & interviewing (alongside our intrepid host, Alrik). Remains one of my favorite filmmaking podcasts to have on rotation.
I love the Alrik & Timothy podcasts, but Alrik has bumped it up a few notches with his mix of guest-host-casters! These episodes bring a whole new energy to the podcast, providing an entertaining variety of color, depth, and experience. Also, listening to the expertise of the podcast guests, who knew how much goes in to this stuff...the animation, the cartoon show, the launching of a streaming platform... Incredible how hard people work on these projects. Truly inspiring! ~Marcella
This is a great podcast, really honest & interesting conversations about filmmaking from a lot of different perspectives— highly recommend!