As one of the old white guys in the room I struggled with my role in drawing attention to DEIB. After listening to this podcast I started to understand where I could be helpful, where the role of the ally can create access and an audience for the voices that need to be heard. And talking with Kay personally? She started me rolling, and I’m picking up speed. I return to this podcast for grounding, ideas, and reminders of what can be done and what I can do.