These guys are old pros in the business, and it is a lot of fun to hear them sit around and talk about vfx shots. This is the sort of talk you hear when you actually work at a major studio--what was good here, what didn't work there--really "inside pool" discussions. I especially like that they love digital matte painters. As one myself, it is nice to here these guys giving "props' to the field. Anyone interested in the business should read Ron's great book, "The Art and Science of Digital Compositing", the seminal book in the field.