First it started when during the final eps of BSG, they spent less and less time talking about the show and more on OT garbage. Nobody I know watched the show, so this was my only outlet for discussion of BSG. Then Shaun and Chuck started sharing their opinions that life aboard a RT fleet should be exactly the same as life back home- Chuck avtually said he's a "Die on my feet rather than live on my knees" kind of person in regards to Roslin and Adama. Yes, that's right, Roslin and Adama were dictators, according to the GWC crew. Generally, you need people who are genuinely bright if you're going to engage in discussion of the show as if it's real-"what would you do?" I realized these three aren't smart enough to do that when Shaun said there needed to be a rebellion(I'm sure there would be no hard feelings AT ALL from both sides when it was over, and they'd get back to running the only warship in existence with even MORE of a skeleton crew) after Roslin and Adama temporarily gave up after Earth- only everything they were working towards, and the group thought Zarek was an OK freedom fighter, despite in the first episode how he said Cally would get what she deserved for biting off her would be r****ts ear, standing in the way of the fleet getting a new water supply, and trying to discredit the only leaders the fleet had weeks after humanity was nearly wiped out- stuff they conveniently ignored. Shaun repeatedly says he has a problem with authority- same thing as "a problem with maturity" to me. And they don't dislike ANYTHING, lapping up even the worst of what RDM gave us- with Chuck recently coming out on their forum saying that he thinks saying something is bad is an attack on its fans, but if you say "I don't enjoy ___", essentially carefully coaching your words, that's OK. What a pus. It's the internet. I can say I hate something and not mean any disrespect to its fans. This was after he said ___ was hated because it was popular, and I responded that there were valid reasons. So if you want intelligent discussion with constructive criticism mixed with praise, look elsewhere.