Oh my goodness sweet friends, if you want to know about the reality of complex issues such as narcissism, this podcast where he is trying to break down what it is is completely, 100% wrong. Narcissism is rampant in the church. I would say within the church there are more narcissists than not , and incredible amounts of multi-generational narcissistic abuse. Narcissism is very covert and sneaky because a lot of times a narcissist is not the typical pop culture view, they are not all flashy and gorgeous and super into themselves, but rather narcissism is rooted in apathy, self-loathing, and un-dealt-with multi generational abuse. The gentleman on this podcast speaks about how we are not supposed to be into ourselves. But unfortunately, the only way that you can overcome narcissistic abuse or help to overcome being a narcissist or suffering with narcissistic personality disorder is to truly learn how to love yourself and stop being rooted in shame about your entire being. I cannot tell you how wrong this podcast is. It’s absolutely infuriating and makes a mockery of something which drastically affects most American families. When you start to realize that God is within you, you start to realize how ridiculous it is to diminish yourself.