Sorry guys, I think you are both extremely knowledgable and have obviously been very successful, but the show is tough to listen to. I find myself counting the number of times you say "ya know"...NO, most of your listeners do not know. The general conversations lack any direction and tend to drive your audience crazy. Again, I think if we met at a bar or convention I would thoroughly enjoy a conversation with you, but I just have to ditch the podcast. The overbearing commercials are awful too (not your fault).