July 15, 2026

The Miles We Run From Ourselves: Endurance, Anxiety, and What Lies Beyond Grit

How far will we push ourselves before we finally ask what we are running from?Marc Hopkins has completed the Bigfoot 200, eight Ironman-distance triathlons, and more than 200 endurance events. But the most difficult terrain he has ever crossed was the landscape inside himself.In this episode of Notes From the Edge, Marc joins Lisa Lacy for a raw conversation about the difference between true endurance and simply enduring life. Together, they explore what happens when grit becomes avoidance, achievement becomes identity, and pushing through becomes the only way we know how to survive.Marc shares how a grueling 200-mile ultramarathon forced him to confront the anxiety, family patterns, relationship dynamics, and need to prove his worth that had followed him for decades. His memoir, Hard Things, is not simply a story about surviving an extreme race. It is about uncovering the deeper reasons we keep choosing hard things and learning when strength requires us to stop running.This conversation explores:• The difference between endurance and enduring• When grit becomes a form of emotional avoidance• The hidden motivations behind extreme achievement• How family patterns shape relationships and parenting• Who we become when we stop proving our worth• Why vulnerability may be the hardest form of strengthLearn more about Marc, explore Hard Things, and read the first chapter at HardThingsBook.com.What did you perform in order to survive?Welcome to the edge. Notes from the Edge with Lisa LacyHuman conversations about trauma, identity, recovery, reinvention, relationships, leadership, and the lives we build after survival.  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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